Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

In politics, all that’s bad is good again. History repeats itself not because we’re stuck on an unbreakable cycle, but because we fail to recognize (or misdiagnose) patterns. If, for example, we are wronged, we will likely see that wrong quite clearly. But when we wrong others, we may not see it simply because it is by our own hand and targets not our own body. In this way, we risk authorship of our own demise.

For the most recent example of this phenomena, look no further than the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 and the USA PATRIOT Act of 2001 (and similar post-9/11 legislation). On the surface, the similarities are few – one addresses national security, the other economic stimulus. And I suspect some will take umbrage on equating the curtailment of civil liberties with increases in spending. But for those who can look pass partisan framing, the commonalities are abundant.

Both the PATRIOT Act and the stimulus package predicate their success, to some extent, on fear-mongering. The terrorist attacks of 9/11, while both horrible and horrifying, did not put us on the brink of Armageddon. The lives lost totaled less than two percent of the U.S. population and that is the worst our enemies have been able to muster. Likewise, while our economic picture is bleak, it is not an unprecedented disaster. The Great Depression and the oil crises of the 1970s were more malignant by several measures.

Amid this heightened sense of doom, supporters of both the PATRIOT Act and the stimulus package demanded that immediate action be taken. As Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, noted in Michael Moore’s controversial “Fahrenheit 9/11,” many members of Congress did not have the time to give the PATRIOT Act legislation a thorough reading. Similarly, it would be safe to say that sufficient time has not been allotted for members of Congress to thoroughly digest the 600-plus page stimulus legislation.

Another similarity can be found in the willingness of both PATRIOT backers and stimulus backers to vilify their opponents. Those who questioned or opposed the PATRIOT Act were demagogically denounced as radical or anti-American. In a similar fashion, stimulus backers such as Paul Krugman (who should know better) have referred to stimulus critics and foes as partisan hacks who can be safely ignored. The view that PATRIOT foes recklessly ignored America’s safety has evolved into the view that stimulus foes are recklessly ignoring America’s economic well-being. In both instances, it has proven simpler to smear the critics rather than address or rebut their criticisms.

Interestingly enough for both PATRIOT and stimulus foes, neither piece of legislation is as bad as it could have been. The PATRIOT Act included provisions which sunset, or expire after a certain period of time unless legislation is enacted to extend them. Author James Bovard also states that Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, who introduced the bill, worked to eliminate even more intrusive provisions. Similarly, the stimulus package includes tax cuts (which have been known to actually stimulate the economy from time to time) and not nearly enough spending for the likes of Krugman and fellow economist Joseph Stiglitz.

In the years since the PATRIOT Act’s passage, its overreach and invitation for abuse is apparent. In a 2007 audit, the Justice Department found that the FBI used the tools provided by the PATRIOT Act to illegally spy on American citizens. The ostensibly national security-minded PATRIOT Act was also used for purposes decidedly unrelated to national security, such as enforcing copyright infringement and investigating drug traffickers.

Since the stimulus package has yet to be passed by the Senate as of this writing, there can be no ill effects to measure. The legislation does, however, contain a number of components unrelated to stimulating the economy, such as funds for family planning. Given the sheer scope of the money involved (over $800 billion) and the size of the bureaucracies it will be filtered through, misuse and malfeasance seems more a question of “when” and “how” rather than “if.”

Of course, there is a learning opportunity here and an easy one at that. The chance to avoid repeating a mistake requires only that we not develop amnesia. But when spend-happy big-government Republicans are suddenly unified in their stimulus opposition on the grounds of fiscal discipline (suppressed titter) and once-skeptical Democrats take up the mantle of heavy-handed toadying yes-men, that may be too much to ask.

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

I can kind of see how family planning could tangentially be connected to stimulating an economy, but not quite enough that it makes solid sense.

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

The trouble is that all those extras are an inevitable product of American political practice. I moaned about this when the TARP went through. In order to entice people to vote for legislation its writers compromise and add in people’s pet projects on the side. It always happens and it’s a disgrace.

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

RSI, im not sure how retirement works in the states but over here you get a state pension (aswell as any company or personal pension you have) and alot of benefits such as a free medical card (sham) and free public transport, im not sure but i also think you dont have to pay tax, or you get reduced tax but not sure about that. So if you have a falling birth rate, in the future your economy will be hollowed out as a bloated population of pensioners lives of the back of a ever decreasing work pool. So one aspect of family planning is that it will increase the population as to accomodate the increasing amount of pensioners. But again im not sure how much of that applies to the states.

And Wingz the denouncing of people opposed to the bills being villified as anti american, reminds me of the current economic climate over here. The irish government at the moment is a very bad government, and one of the biggest problems we have at the moment is people going to northern ireland to shop. The euro and sterling are fairly close in value, but the prices in ireland do not reflect that, there are huge mark ups. The retailers argue that this reflects taxes and import costs, but the tax in the north is something like 15 percent were here its 21 percent, and i cant imagine that importing products to Eire would be more costly than importing to Northern Ireland, anyway i digress. The Irish governments stance on this is to chastise the consumer By labelling them Anti Irish in stead of encouraging the retailer to be more competative. But the funny thing is that Irish patriotism is a very different thing to American patrioitism. Basicly Irish patriotism is being anti colonial Britain and uniting the country. Most Irish people dont really care about this in the republic anyway. Its mainly the over 50’s that care, times they are a changing. Anyway Irish people dont mind spending money when they have it, during the celtic tiger we didnt shop around, we prefared conveniance over bargains. But now we’re in recession so we’re back to the way we used to be.

So did the risk of being labbeled “Anti Irish” have any effect on us? Yes, but not in the way the government hoped. Instead of discouraging us to shop in the north, it has discouraged us to vote for Finé Fáil. So yeah that concludes my rant on the stupidity of the Irish government

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

Are you sure it isn’t making information regarding abortions more readily available? Also, I don’t see it as problematic if fewer people are born. Lower population means less competition for jobs and fewer people on welfare.

At any rate, the point is moot: apparently, that provision was cut from the version of the stimulus package which passed the House. Sorry I missed that.

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

You have an aging population. You need a higher birth rate or your country will go bust.

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

Oh ok over here its the other way round. Most countries in the EU have an ageing population and alot of countries have encouraged bigger families. The way we do it in Ireland is childrens alowance. For every child you have you get X amount. Most countries in the EU do something simular

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

Someguy - I was talking to WingZ. I live in the UK…

Also, the children’s allowance etc isn’t the problem. The issue is that as your population ages, productivity decreases as they do not work, but you need to pay pensions and keep the country running.

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

And Nemo i was reffering to Vickies post.

Also i wasnt emplying that childrens allowance was a problem. I meant that it was the incentive to have more children

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

That makes a bit more sense, though I still would contend that it doesn’t incentivise you to have children as the cost still outweighs the benefit. I suppose it is supposed to counteract some of the disincentives.

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

as far as i know there are other incentives im just not well versed on them

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

Any slightly cynical person might say that there are incentives to be a single mother, rather than proper incentives to have a family…

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

yeah single mothers do get more benefits, but i would imagine it wouldnt be enough to counter act having another person to help out and to have another income

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

It depends. It’s certainly better than having another person on benefits!

Stimulus: The New Patriot Act

I honestly think that at least in the US, not familiar with other countries so can’t judge them, that the default solution is always to throw money at the problem hoping that it will go away, and I feel that is a large part of why we are in the economic issues that we are in at the moment; while a large part is also the bursting of the speculative housing bubble putting people in bigger houses than they can afford resulting in them defaulting on their loans, but I digress. I think that this stimulus plan, as well as all the past bailouts are simply going to make everything worse as it will result in lowering the value of the US dollar, because historically the US government gives money away without monitoring how it is used after they signed the check. Banks that were getting bailouts are continuing to give their top executives bonuses and salaries in the millions of dollars, while there have been three foreclosures on my street in the last month because the families couldn’t afford to pay their mortgages.