Ok, dunno if this is true, but wikipedia mentioned this and so did a dude I saw on a clip from the Colbert report. The clip had some old guy saying “Warren D Harding was a Ne****” (you know the word).
Is this simply a dumb bit of lies, or is one of Warren D Harding’s grandparents African American? Anybody know this for sure?
As racist as it is, if Warren was a black president, then this dramatically changes the historical precedence of Obama.
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Based on that article, no one knows for sure.
As racist as it is, if Warren was a black president, then this dramatically changes the historical precedence of Obama.
Sort of, this would still be the first time that people knowingly voted for a black President.
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The guy needs to get the name right, there has never been a Warren “D” Harding as a president!! The 29th U.S. Presidents name was Warren “G” Harding!! So the old guy may have no clue what he is talking about!! However on the Wiki page it does make mention of it, so…!!
Here is the link!! Warren G. Harding - Wikipedia
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This is ridiculous. He might have had one black grandparent. He was not black.
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That’d be my fault, not his. Made a typo.
Besides, the old dude was talking about Warren Harding, one of our presidents of the united states, being an “N” word, and with wiki and other sites mentioning this, it’s highly unlikely that he didn’t know what he was talking about.
If his black grandparent was of a bloodline and not just a step grandparent or in law, then he WAS black.
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Actually, the thread was made because I couldn’t tell if it was a rumor or not. There’s no certainty from me, and it also doesn’t matter if he had seven white grandparents and only one black one. Technically, he was black if he had even just one. But even so, a single great grandparent who was black is a hell of a lot closer to “blackness” than general ancestry.
So….I dunno what you’re laughing at to be honest.
EDIT: On a side note, what does a “Common Eve” mean?
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Like mitochondria Eve… from Parasite Eve…
Obama not the first [potential] black president?
I find it laughable that you say you are not sure, but you already said, “If his black grandparent was of a bloodline and not just a step grandparent or in law, then he WAS black.” You even used capital letters! Looks like certainty to me.
That’s not what I was certain about and you even quoted the part of my sentence that should have let you know I’m not sure. “If his black grandparent was of a bloodline.”
Key word, If. If is uncertainty, THAT is what I’m unsure about, if he had a black grandparent or if it’s a stupid rumor. That’s all I was uncertain about and that was the point of this thread.
EDIT: To a degree, yes, I understand that we all come from a general ancestry, and it’s highly likely that it’s black, asian, latin, and white all mixed or whatever.
I guess the best way to phrase this is “how black is he?” As I said, having a great grandparent who is black is a lot more “black” than having an ancestor whose black, but really all I want to know is if the great grandparent is in fact African American.
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Just to clarify, if he had black skin, then he was black. Having one black ancestor does not make you black. Seriously. This is ridiculous. It’s like in Family Guy where Peter thinks that having had some black relatives makes him black: it’s a complete and utter fucking farce.
This could not be more of a non-issue.
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Having one black ancestor does not make you black. Seriously.
Umm…wrong, so far beyond wrong. Black skin, or any color of skin for that matter, is caused by the pigment Melanin, which is found in all human beings. Black people have a high concentration of Melanin, white people have a low concentration, so if you have a black person as an ancestor, it simply means that through a continuous string of breeding white and black people down to white and slightly darker people, the concentration amount was reduced.
The DNA would still be there, easily. As Vickie said, we all come from one common Eve, so whether you think that is ridiculous, Obama is black, Harding is Black, hell even you and I are black to a degree.
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So… one small black bit of DNA, as if the ridiculous notion that DNA has a skin color has merit, makes you black but no amount of “white” DNA can make you white, eh?
This assertion is ridiculous beyond degree for reasons to numerous to name. The color of your skin is just that, not a reason to vote against or for a candidate. It is a color. If it is not apparent, is is not there. If it is apparent, it is there.
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So… one small black bit of DNA, as if the ridiculous notion that DNA has a skin color has merit, makes you black but no amount of “white” DNA can make you white, eh?
Did I not say “or any skin color for that matter.”
And who keeps thinking that my opinion of a presidential candidate is directly related to the color of their skin? There are a lot of other people who think that, this is true, but I was only remarking on what I saw on a TV show and was merely curious if it were a rumor/lie or if it were true. Nothing more.
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If it doesn’t matter to you then why do you insist on deciding the color of his skin by anything other than its apparent color?
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If it doesn’t matter to you then why do you insist on deciding the color of his skin by anything other than its apparent color?
It’s not the color of his skin that matters. It’s his family tree, that’s all.
I’m honestly not sure how to make this any clearer other than repeating what I’ve been saying over and over.[/b][/quote]
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You should stop saying that, because it’s stupid. The reason you can’t make it clearer is because when something is 100% obscure, there is no clarifying it.
The discrimination might have been extended to those with a black ancestor, but he was not black. The thing that makes you black, ultimately, is being black. This is not questionable. Hell, you can be of African origin, but just not black. Part of the flaw in the racism is that by directing it purely on the basis of skin colour it ignores the fact that it is not the most important factor in what someone’s like.
Do you know the first thing about genetics? You don’t just end up with ‘a little bit of black’ in you. Melanism is either Codominant or recessive (I believe). Within a couple of generations you can have the gene completely gone from your make up.
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You should stop saying that, because it’s stupid. The reason you can’t make it clearer is because when something is 100% obscure, there is no clarifying it.
My question is obscure? How so? “Did Warren G Harding have a black grandparent” is pretty crystal clear to me.
Do you know the first thing about genetics? You don’t just end up with ‘a little bit of black’ in you. Melanism is either Codominant or recessive (I believe). Within a couple of generations you can have the gene completely gone from your make up.
Again, black or any other skin color were my words.
EDIT: Anyways, I’m done with this thread. I went to an IM friend and he was kind enough to just tell me the answer to my question with a few citations of course, and that’s all I wanted.
Obama not the first [potential] black president?
One person did. Not a number of people. Valentine answered my one, and only question. However up until now I missed that one.
In any case.
Obama not the first [potential] black president?
One person did. Not a number of people. Valentine answered my one, and only question. However up until now I missed that one.
In any case.[/quote]
One is a number. As is zero, actually.
Obama not the first [potential] black president?
One person did. Not a number of people. Valentine answered my one, and only question. However up until now I missed that one.
In any case.[/quote]
One is a number. As is zero, actually.[/quote]
I seriously hope we’re not gonna get into petty semantics.
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One person did. Not a number of people. Valentine answered my one, and only question. However up until now I missed that one.
In any case.[/quote]
One is a number. As is zero, actually.[/quote]
I seriously hope we’re not gonna get into petty semantics.[/quote]
Your entire argument, in case you didn’t notice, is based on petty semantics.