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One time I was reading a story not from this site from another site I was hang out at (obviously made up).

Can you actually lose control from wearing diapers 24/7 after while the only break you get is when you change or take a shower?

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Plenty of people will claim you can, but realisticly? Not likely.

A loss of volume and needing to go more frequently because your bladder shrinks because you go more often using the diapers? That’s something that can happen.

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[QUOTE=Renko Yanagi;67737]Plenty of people will claim you can, but realisticly? Not likely.

A loss of volume and needing to go more frequently because your bladder shrinks because you go more often using the diapers? That’s something that can happen.[/QUOTE]

I thought about that too.

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[QUOTE=Renko Yanagi;67737]Plenty of people will claim you can, but realisticly? Not likely.

A loss of volume and needing to go more frequently because your bladder shrinks because you go more often using the diapers? That’s something that can happen.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Merely putting on diapers doesn’t magically make you incontinent. If there isn’t an underlying physical need for them, you could theoretically use them just like you’d use a regular toilet (and going to the bathroom a lot doesn’t make you lose control).

However, wearing diapers and using them the way they’re designed (i.e. frequent, small releases instead of big floods) could make you have to remind yourself you’re not wearing them once you’re not. This is not an actual loss of physical control, but rather a matter of having grown used to being able to relieve yourself whenever you feel like it. You would still have the same amount of control as before you put on the diaper and would therefore still be able to prevent any accidents. Also, getting used to not wearing diapers again afterwards wouldn’t take long (probably only minutes).

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I’ve read that you’d need to undergo months or years of psychological conditioning to fully overcome toilet training.

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I take it you were hanging out there to and read the same story I read too

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My wife had this happen to her once after an extended period (about a day and a half) of wearing. Sitting there, coloring, doing her thing, and completely forgot she wasn’t wearing one. I suggested we should just dispense with the confusion entirely, but that solution wasn’t particularly well-received. :smiley:

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How heavy was the object, and do you still have a scar?
:stuck_out_tongue:

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Between my reading and experience, I’m fairly certain some people can after several months to a year plus get to where you actually have to actively work to hold it at all, while others seem to be able to go years wearing and using 24/7 without any apparent loss of control.

Still, to the degree this is incontinence, it is functional incontinence due to a bladder trained to be small and a trained habit of ignoring the need to go. In theory one can always retrain, although in practice it seems one can get to a point where retraining is more work and stress than giving up and using diapers.

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[QUOTE=ally;67746]Between my reading and experience, I’m fairly certain some people can after several months to a year plus get to where you actually have to actively work to hold it at all, while others seem to be able to go years wearing and using 24/7 without any apparent loss of control.

Still, to the degree this is incontinence, it is functional incontinence due to a bladder trained to be small and a trained habit of ignoring the need to go. In theory one can always retrain, although in practice it seems one can get to a point where retraining is more work and stress than giving up and using diapers.[/QUOTE]

That’s been my experience, as well as basically the content of my Doctor’s dire warnings about using diapers for prolonged periods. Of say more then a week or so, granted that advice is specific to my condition and may not be generally applicable . But it fits with your theory.

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Possibly, I’ve been to odd sites over the years.

Toilet training is well ingrained, it’s one of the harder things to overcome through hypnosis.

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My wife had this happen to her once after an extended period (about a day and a half) of wearing. Sitting there, coloring, doing her thing, and completely forgot she wasn’t wearing one. I suggested we should just dispense with the confusion entirely, but that solution wasn’t particularly well-received.

Dude, i didn’t know you had a death wish, or a love of dog houses. I haven’t had a serious relationship in six years and even i know you aren’t supposed to do that. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Sounds like your condition means that you are in danger much faster than most, but from the accounts of prolonged diaper wearing and using (six months and more) I’m currently of the belief that most people could get to the point of finding themselves in a wet diaper with no memory of having wet it. Still, there are a few who can’t seem to get there even after years. My strong suspicion is that wanting incontinence actually makes it harder to reach that goal, but it could be in part that people who want it tend to set a higher standard before they call it incontinence.

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I have never lost control from wearing 24/7. I have been doing for five years.

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I never lose control either and I don’t wear them 24/7 I was just wondering. I just read a story and I’m sure it was all made up

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It all comes down to the individual. Automatic systems of the body are hard to override. For those that easily toilet trained as a child, overcoming the automatic system to hold in bladder and bowel is hard because it is an automatic system. You must therefor think in order to let either one go. Is it possible to retrain your body NOT to ask permission to release the muscle, YES. The ease of that depends on how long it has been since Full Control was obtained, and done without effort.

If an individual is incontinent even a little, the slope to losing control is a LOT easier. If the individual is within 10 years of gaining control, then the losing control can happen faster. If you actually work to be incontinent to the same degree an individual works to be toilet trained, then we are back to YES, wearing diapers can lead to having no control.

Just think about institutions or Nursing Homes. There are individuals in those settings that may have a few “accidents” but mostly had control of their bladder and bowels. If put in protection and deciding (conscious or unconscious) there is no reason to fight the use of the items, the individual does lose control.

I have found that an individual who is put back into diapers due to control issues, it is much easier to get them back to where they were before being put back into diapers than it was the first time. The concept that once you have learned to ride a bike you will always know how. Muscle Memory. You may stop using those muscle pathways, but once you try to do it again it is easy for the body to remember they have done this before.

At one point in my mid 20’s I went back to diapers 24/7 for two weeks. At this point it had been less than 10 years since I had my last significant “accident”. At the end of those two weeks, it took a couple of days before my toileting skills were beyond that of a preschooler. If I had stayed in the diapers longer, my return to having bladder and bowel control would have taken longer. But now, 20 years later, I can spend two weeks in diapers, take them off and go to work the next day with little to no concern about control issues. I also have much more automatic control over the issue than I did 20 years ago. Currently, no matter how hard I try, I can not pee and/or poop when my body is in certain positions. Unconsciously my body in certain positions does not even let my brain know I have a need to unless my bladder/bowel is extremely full.

I believe it all comes down to length of Full Control and degree of full control. Overriding something that has been working unconsciously, is hard, especially if effort to do so is not made. Just putting on a diaper and letting go when your body would normally use the toilet is not working to reverse toilet training.