Help with a um... Loveletter please :)

Hey guys,
I want to write a love letter to this girl i really like and I thought since you guys are good at writing you could help me with how to structure it. Thanks :slight_smile:

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While I’m not trying to dismiss the idea of a loveletter, I do want to ask, is there any reason you can’t tell her how you feel in person?

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When I Have Fears That I May Cease To Be
by John Keats (1795 - 1821)

When I have fears that I may cease to be
Before my pen has glean’d my teeming brain,
Before high-piled books, in charactery,
Hold like rich garners the full ripen’d grain;
When I behold, upon the night’s starr’d face,
Huge cloudy symbols of a high romance,
And think that I may never live to trace
Their shadows, with the magic hand of chance;
And when I feel, fair creature of an hour,
That I shall never look upon thee more,
Never have relish in the faery power
Of unreflecting love;–then on the shore
Of the wide world I stand alone, and think
Till love and fame to nothingness do sink.


Hither, Hither, Love

HITHER hither, love—
'Tis a shady mead—
Hither, hither, love!
Let us feed and feed!

Hither, hither, sweet—
'Tis a cowslip bed—
Hither, hither, sweet!
'Tis with dew bespread!

Hither, hither, dear
By the breath of life,
Hither, hither, dear!—
Be the summer’s wife!

Though one moment’s pleasure
In one moment flies—
Though the passion’s treasure
In one moment dies;—

Yet it has not passed—
Think how near, how near!—
And while it doth last,
Think how dear, how dear!

Hither, hither, hither
Love its boon has sent—
If I die and wither
I shall die content!

John Keats

Just a few by Keats. Why ask us when the best who ever wrote love letters has all his stuff in the public domain.

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And if the woman he wants to write loveletters to thinks poetry is gay, what then?

Also…that’s some fairly terrible poetry.

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Tis the dew bedspread LOL that is so stupid it’s funny also it really is terrible poetry

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WHAT?!

This -

When I have fears that I may cease to be
Before my pen has glean’d my teeming brain,
Before high-piled books, in charactery,
Hold like rich garners the full ripen’d grain;
When I behold, upon the night’s starr’d face,
Huge cloudy symbols of a high romance,
And think that I may never live to trace
Their shadows, with the magic hand of chance;
And when I feel, fair creature of an hour,
That I shall never look upon thee more,
Never have relish in the faery power
Of unreflecting love;–then on the shore
Of the wide world I stand alone, and think
Till love and fame to nothingness do sink.

  • is one of my favourite poems of all time.

Keats is arguably the most important of the Romantic poets.

See also

It’s really quite fantastic. Particularly when you consider that When I Have Fears… was written in 1818 and he was to die in 1821. On the other hand, I wouldn’t be tempted to use that for a love letter as it seems to conclude that love is not really so important.

Again, not for a lover, but what do you think of:

ON A DROP OF DEW.

(TRANSLATED.)

SEE, how the orient dew,
Shed from the bosom of the morn
Into the blowing roses,
(Yet careless of its mansion new,
For the clear region where 'twas born,)
Round in itself incloses ;
And, in its little globe’s extent,
Frames, as it can, its native element.
How it the purple flower does slight,
Scarce touching where it lies ;
But gazing back upon the skies,
Shines with a mournful light,
Like its own tear,
Because so long divided from the sphere.
Restless it rolls, and unsecure,
Trembling, lest it grow impure ;
Till the warm sun pity its pain,
And to the skies exhale it back again.
So the soul, that drop, that ray
Of the clear fountain of eternal day,
(Could it within the human flower be seen,)
Remembering still its former height,
Shuns the sweet leaves, and blossoms green,
And, recollecting its own light,
Does, in its pure and circling thoughts, express
The greater heaven in an heaven less.
In how coy a figure wound,
Every way it turns away ;
So the world-excluding round,
Yet receiving in the day ;
Dark beneath, but bright above,
Here disdaining, there in love.
How loose and easy hence to go ;
How girt and ready to ascend ;
Moving but on a point below,
It all about does upwards bend.
Such did the manna’s sacred dew distil ;
White and entire, though congealed and chill ;
Congealed on earth ; but does, dissolving, run
Into the glories of the almighty sun.

As for your love-letter, Gabzas, you have to tell us what kind of thing you want to say and then I’m sure we could try and help you. Pick maybe a few points about what is good about her/what you like about her and how you respond and you’re good to start.

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Erm - that would be ‘bespread’ not ‘bedspread’ as in ‘spread with dew’. :wink:

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Face to face is better…

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Keats is an important poet, and arguably one of the best of the romantic period. Nemo is right on.

Jaclyn is a Philistine (Philistinism - Wikipedia) or at least indicative of the under-education of the current generation. What do they teach in Literature classes in high school? Surely there should be some British writers including some of the great romantic poets. I guess now they are just teaching politically correct mush and ignoring great British and American classics. I am sad for the state of the current generation. I thought we generation X people were losing our cultural heritage.

I agree with Nemo. Ask her out. Don’t write long love letters until you are at least dating. Then knock yourself out and write with abandon. I just posted Keats because I love Keats and because he is a very romantic writer. If you want to write a love letter, then read him and be influenced by his poetry. Don’t copy his poems verbatim and give to your girlfriend, but write your own while having a model to go on.

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Interesting how you use the word gay here. Do you mean joyful and carefree, which is the original definition of gay? Or do you mean that only homosexuals would enjoy poetry? If you meant that she might thing poetry is stupid, then do you think all homosexuals are stupid? Elaborate what you mean by the above quote.

And yes, I am pretty much jerking your chain.

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Hmm…lets see, I’m a phillistine eh?

When the fuck did I say I don’t appreciate poetry? I said some people don’t like it, and I also said I don’t like -that- particular poem, but who the hell are you to judge me and tell me I don’t appreciate art when art is my fucking career? I draw, paint, act, voice act, write, cook, do flash, my favorite art happens to be by one of my favorite artists, Birth of Venus by Botticelli, I own every single calendar made by Boris Vallejo and I wasn’t even born when he started doing his work;

Yeah, I’m just terrible and undereducated about artwork. Makes so much sense that you try to judge the entirety of me by one bloody opinion, thanks for pissing me off for no reason today.

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Sorry, I’ve had a shitty day and didn’t need that.

Poetry isn’t bad, I just didn’t care for that guy is all.

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I was just joking around with you. I am sorry I made you angry. I thought you were going to school to do something with computers, or am I mistaken. My friend that painted my portrait, which I used as a Facebook profile picture, said that Birth of Venus is his favorite painting. I have some books with covers done by Vellejo, although I wouldn’t put him on par with Botticelli, he does wonderful fantasy art.

I must learn to use those smilies. The tone of my humor was lost to the text of the Internet. Sorry for making you angry. Do you prefer Shelley to Keats, or just wish to skip the entire romantic period?

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My current studies are filmography, animation and graphic design, and if that takes off well enough, I’d like to attend a high end school, something prestigious like Julliard for voice acting and other vocal arts.

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Er…yeah, what exactly happened?

And why didn’t you do it face to face?

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Jaks - it was rubbishing the poem rather than expressing distaste that was a little jarring. Though I have to admit, I dislike the second one.

Gabzas - what happened. And how old are you?

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Most poetry has a rhythm in mind that is based off what system they used and the emotion they are trying to convey. It’s usually pretty simple though it’s all about how it is read and how the poet intended the message to be spread ( assuming it’s not one that is meant to be individually interpreted. ). Give it a read with a slight melodic sound and insinuate the important parts you’ll find it can almost change a poem.

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Jaks - it was rubbishing the poem rather than expressing distaste that was a little jarring.

So…saying “That’s a fairly terrible poem” because I really thought it was pretty terrible is the wrong way to say it? I’m not attempting to tell you that you’re showing appreciation for the poem in the wrong way, so why am I being told I’m not liking the poem in the wrong way? If I don’t like something or think it’s terrible, I think it makes perfect sense to say I don’t like it and think it’s terrible. Not sure how that’s “rubbishing the poem.”

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Jaclyn, perhaps it would clear things up if you mentioned why you thought it was terrible. Amaya, not liking that poem doesn’t necesarily mean one is ignorant about poetry. That seemed to be what you were insinuating.

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Jaclyn - what I meant was pretty much what WingZ is getting at. Rather than say ‘I dislike this poem because X’ you made a statement that reads more like ‘That poem is objectively meritless’. To be clear, I disagreed with you, rather than attack you, but that’s what I suspect elicited the suspicion that you were unable to appreciate poetry: that you had an opinion that greatly differs from the majority of people through the last few hundred years and you didn’t tell us why.