Bearer of bad news...

Well, If I didn’t, someone else would have.

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01/18 Unusual Syndromes and Fears

“Phobias, fetishes and fears: Dr. Phil’s guests explain! First, Brett, 24, is a retail employee by night and an 18-month-old baby by day. He admits to wearing diapers, sleeping in a custom-made crib and having his girlfriend, Cat, bathe, change and spoon-feed him while he babbles like an infant – which Cat does without protest. Brett says he’s happy playing the role of a baby and enjoys the dynamics of their relationship, but what does Cat say about their future together? Is this a fetish Brett can grow out of, or is something deeper at play? Then, 55-year-old Robin says she’s terrified of riding in cars. She says she becomes paralyzed by fear every time she’s on the road – so much so, she’s even landed in the ER with panic attacks. Her husband, Michael, says Robin’s phobia is driving him nuts. What’s at the source of her anxiety? If you’re affected by an overwhelming fear or phobia, tune in for techniques to take back your life.”

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yawn Here we go again. FetLife has already started blowing up because of this bullshit. There’s one group that firmly believes this is a horrible idea, then there is another group(mostly the older, creeper crowd) that thinks it’s oh so wonderful. One idiot actually said “even bad publicity is good publicity”. My response was “are you fucking kidding me?”.

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But, isn’t it better to be on a show like Dr. Phil, than those others??

At least he might help them to understand it more, rather than making
it more of a Side-show Freak-athon

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I don’t think even Oprah could make someone understand infantilism, and she’s as close to a god as you can get.

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True, If watchers don’t want to understand something like this, they never
will no matter Who it is doing the discussion

However, I do want to watch the show before I condemn Dr. Phil, or the show
for using this.

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I don’t think even Oprah could make someone understand infantilism, and she’s as close to a god as you can get.

Nicely put.

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Not really. Dr. Phil was a practicing and respected psychologist at one point. Now he is as bad as Jerry Springer, IMO.

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I watched most of the show. He did say that what the guy was doing was not wrong,
But did say that if his Girlfriend wanted a more ‘Normal’ relationship, she should
pick some one else.

And I disagree that he is as bad as Springer, He is Much better than a Springer type host!!
At least He would listen to you about you activity, and not condemn you for it,
unless you were hurting others!!
He will be more understanding.

His biggest advice was tapper back on the time as an 18 month old!!
Let Her be in charge of activities some days, meaning he should behave
as an adult more often. Don’t regress Every day.

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You think? Regressing once a month should be more than adequate.

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Yeah really. Sounds like dude has been on a non-stop binge and needs to get control of himself…

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Yeah, no, it WAS as bad as expected Liefdesverdriet.

His exact words were “Why in the world would you settle for this definition of a relationship? You don’t have infantilism, you don’t have a diaper fetish. You’re not so oriented to that…you’re just a normal functioning woman.”

That alone immediately sets the tone for his opinion about this lifestyle.

Snippits of the show here- http://drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/6693/?id=6693&showID=1769&versionID=
And here- http://drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/6692/?id=6692&slide=1&showID=1769&preview=&versionID=

(Click on the link in the middle of the text that starts with “Watch”).

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Holy context, Batman.

The first clip, he says “I am less concerned about what [Brett] is doing than I am about what you are doing.”

The history is, she cheated on him because he wasn’t being intimate with her at ALL.

That’s him being real about this person who is obviously being the mommy in this relationship out of guilt.

No, you’ve got this way, way wrong, Jaclyn. Phil is seeing the obvious one-sidedness of the relationship, where Kat is doing all the giving and Brett is doing all the taking. It is ridiculous that this guy plugs into being AB every waking (and sleeping) minute of the day he’s not at work, giving his live-in girlfriend absolutely ZERO of what she actually needs (intimacy with an adult being the most obvious, nurturing of her own)…

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Yeah in the ‘good’ doctors defence. I’ve actually talked to that guy on a chatroom a few times on dailydiapers. The guy is a little too open with his AB lifestyle. Also, as said before, the guy regresses too much. According to his blog (Here it is http://babybrett.wordpress.com/) the guy pretty much abused his gf like dr.phil said. Not in a physical way, but I can understand their opinions. Your right jaclyn, its clear Dr. Phil doesn’t really care for infanitlism. But I don’t think he cared so much about that as much as that she wasn’t into it. Just an idea. Oh and if anyone cares, they broke up shortly after shooting that

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True, but it also implies that unless she has a monogamous heterosexual relationship with someone else “Normal,” then she’s being denied something vitally necessary for her life and it is NOT necessary.

Furthermore, if she’s perfectly okay with how things are going, then that in and of itself should be a fulfilling relationship, and if not she would have left him earlier anyway because, as said, she’s willing to cheat on him in the first place.

I also hate how Dr. Phil says “You can’t have it both ways, either you’re a 24 year old or an 18 month old.”

Now, perhaps I’m being a bit unfair mainly because I can only watch these clips, I haven’t actually seen the full fledge episode in all of its contextual glory. If someone happens to know where to find that so I don’t have to wait until the 25th (that’s the next time it’ll air according to Tvguide), then by all means, I’m curious enough to watch.

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Even on Brett’s blog, he quietly admits “When I lost Cat I lost a GF and a Mom. But at the same time it is my fault for making it that way.”

You’re damned right it is, you selfish jerk.

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That implication is rooted in the fact that she was driven to cheat on him - so she obviously had sexual needs that he wouldn’t/couldn’t fulfill. I mean, sure, women survive taking vows of chastity all the time (nuns), but she hung on in this relationship hoping he would change, while he had no intention of doing so. That’s where it’s “not fair to her”, because she believed he would eventually dial back the baby thing a bit and give her at least some adult time. She was hanging on to a pipe dream, and he (by his own admission) just took for granted that she would be willing to do all these things for him without him giving her any of what she needed.

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So if a girl is totally okay with babying a guy who has no intention of ever having sex with her, that guy is a jerk, but if the girl cheats on him because he doesn’t want to have sex with her then it’s okay?

I’m in a polyamorous relationship with 3 women, two of which are sisters who were and still are dating each other before I met them, and only one of which has an actual vagina, and even I’ve gotta say that’s pretty fucked up.

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My thoughts exactly. He isn’t a bad person because he’s an AB, he’s a bad person because he’s a bad person. I think what he wanted was a mommy. not a lover. That girl was a trooper though. Hanging in there like she did for 6 years.

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You guys seriously need to quit victimizing this girl as if she’s incapable of having a mind of her own.

If she wanted to leave this guy, she would. If she wanted a different relationship, she’d go for it, and has even tried. Seriously, it’s not like she’s legitimately trapped or anything. She can leave whenever she damn well wants to, she’s CHOOSING to stay.

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You didn’t read the blog did you? she dumped him a while ago. Dr.Phil isn’t live. they filmed that episode in december